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HRT and brain


noface 🇺🇦


On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 12:45 PM, Jessica Creel wrote:


simply eat the female
I don't think we should be discouraging this :)


noface 🇺🇦


On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 01:07 PM, Jessica Creel wrote:


HRT helps NMDA function in people like me, reducing dissociative symptoms.
Yes, I've seen articles about this. It's good to know that you noticed it on yourself as well.


noface 🇺🇦


Just another ref for the pile.

https://www.jneurosci.org/content/33/49/19051

Neuroestradiol in the Hypothalamus Contributes to the Regulation of Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone Release

Release of gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH) from the medial basal hypothalamus (MBH)/median eminence region (S-ME) is essential for normal reproductive function. GnRH release is profoundly regulated by the negative and positive feedback effects of ovarian estradiol (E2). Here we report that neuroestradiol, released in the S-ME, also directly influences GnRH release in ovariectomized female monkeys, in which the ovarian source of E2 is removed. We found that (1) brief infusion of E2 benzoate (EB) to the S-ME rapidly stimulated release of GnRH and E2 in the S-ME of ovariectomized monkeys, (2) electrical stimulation of the MBH resulted in GnRH release as well as E2 release, and (3) direct infusion of an aromatase inhibitor to the S-ME suppressed spontaneous GnRH release as well as the EB-induced release of GnRH and E2. These findings reveal the importance of neuroestradiol as a neurotransmitter in regulation of GnRH release. How circulating ovarian E2 interacts with hypothalamic neuroestrogens in the control of GnRH release remains to be investigated.


Indigo


I just wonder if anyone keep using lena dosage of 0.22ml EEN, cuz on this
my feminisation seem to be okay. Last time I was advised to down the
dosage, but am hesitating to. My fogetting habit is still here, do u people
think i should really down my dose.

I didnt do blood test, and it suck to take a decision here. Dont know hell
where this brain issues starts to kick in. As if dysphoria was not enough :(

Fck.....

On Mon, 19 Sep 2022, 19:29 noface 🇺🇦, <ns.nanika@...> wrote:

Just another ref for the pile.

https://www.jneurosci.org/content/33/49/19051

Neuroestradiol in the Hypothalamus Contributes to the Regulation of
Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone Release

Release of gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH) from the medial basal
hypothalamus (MBH)/median eminence region (S-ME) is essential for normal
reproductive function. GnRH release is profoundly regulated by the negative
and positive feedback effects of ovarian estradiol (E2). Here we report
that neuroestradiol, released in the S-ME, also directly influences GnRH
release in ovariectomized female monkeys, in which the ovarian source of E2
is removed. We found that (1) brief infusion of E2 benzoate (EB) to the
S-ME rapidly stimulated release of GnRH and E2 in the S-ME of
ovariectomized monkeys, (2) electrical stimulation of the MBH resulted in
GnRH release as well as E2 release, and (3) direct infusion of an aromatase
inhibitor to the S-ME suppressed spontaneous GnRH release as well as the
EB-induced release of GnRH and E2. These findings reveal the importance of
neuroestradiol as a neurotransmitter in regulation of GnRH release. How
circulating ovarian E2 interacts with hypothalamic neuroestrogens in the
control of GnRH release remains to be investigated.






Lena


I just wonder if anyone keep using lena dosage of 0.22ml EEN, cuz on this
my feminisation seem to be okay. Last time I was advised to down the
dosage
Doctors limit estradiol dosages for two reasons:

1. Doctors' gospels (textbooks and package inserts) say about estrogens:
dosage the less the better, stop as soon as possible.
Doctors manage to never realise that this mantra was written in the fear
of uterine cancer, and that you haven't an uterus.

2. Guidelines say maintan some arbitrarily low estradiol level.
Those guidelines were written with the goal to maximize quantity
of doctor visits paid by patients and insurance, to force us to
pay multiple times to beg for more estradiol.

Most transsexual blindly trust doctors and parrot them. :-/

I'm 23 years post-op. I inject myself with the same dosage.
I tested a new batch of EEn powder on myself, my blood estradiol level
was 1271 pg/ml = 4666 pmol/l 5 days after 0.22 ml injection (weekly).
When I forget to inject, I feel worse: some depression, lower libido,
lower erogenic zone (nipples) sensitivity.

Lena


noface 🇺🇦


On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 11:45 AM, Indigo wrote:


Last time I was advised to down the
dosage, but am hesitating to. My fogetting habit is still here, do u people
think i should really down my dose.
Nobody can "advise you" properly, because you are you, everybody's a bit different, and only you know how the different levels feel for you. Take Lena for example. She injects 11mg/wk EEn and feels great. Some people get the same result, some people get a different result. You won't find out how that works for you until you try it.

About hesitation - same. Try, and you'll find out, no harm done in the process. Cis women have lousy levels for a part of a month, and mediocre at best for the rest of the month.

Endogenous cis E2 production is somewhere around 0.1-0.3mg/day, depending on that time of the month. Works out to about 0.5-2mg/wk, different every week, and it works fine for most of them. This is from Yen & Jaffe's Reproductive Endocrinology, pg.89 btw.

I gotta say, I felt more emotionally unstable, and more depressed when I felt depressed, on higher dosages, and it takes a bit of time to adjust to a dosage change, but EEn helps vs EV, and with stuff like EV more frequent dosage helps too when your overall dosage is less. Even when you use EEn, 5mg twice a week will have more effect than 11mg once a week. YMMV of course.

But basically, if you feel like something's off and you need a change, make a change and see if it went in the right direction. It's pretty simple. Hundreds of millions of women (menopause) live for decades without E. It's sad obviously. But, compared to that, underdosing DIY E by one of us for a week or two, having the means to correct that, essentially immediately, is sooo non-issue. The only barrier is overexpression of paranoia. Which, yes, we are very prone to.


Brianna


"Dont know hell where this brain issues starts to kick in. As if dysphoria was not enough :("

Started GAHT on Aug 13 @ 11mg. Skin softened, smoothed and oiliness went away. At third dose during week 3 my skin returned to being oily and leathery. No notice of emotional change.

September 3, dropped dose to 9mg. Skin became soft, smooth and oiliness went away again. Nipples began to hurt. No notice of emotional change.

September 12, dropped dose to 7mg. Skin still soft, smooth and no oiliness. Nipples still hurt and something is getting bigger behind the nipples. Sperm is now almost non existent, slight white and clear. Testicles size has decreased some. No noticeable emotional change.

September 19, 7mg. Continuation of September 12.

Began Finasteride September 6, .25mg daily.

I wouldn't be too scared about adjusting your dose up and down a bit. At least you're Diy and you're taking responsibility for your own actions. If it was a jacket wearer they'd be screwing with your hormones and you'd be at their mercy experiencing whatever they wanted you to endure.

You've got people here that's been there done that for years and decades to consult with for suggestions and help.


Brianna


"September 19, 7mg. Continuation of September 12."

Forgot to add that since September 12 I'm tired a lot and I get tired easily. I don't know why.


Lena


I'm tired a lot and I get tired easily. I don't know why.
Testosterone is doping.


Brianna


You meant dropping? If that's the case I'll accept it dropping to be rid of
it. T is gross.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 2:20 PM Lena <Lena@...> wrote:

I'm tired a lot and I get tired easily. I don't know why.
Testosterone is doping.






Lena


I'm tired a lot and I get tired easily. I don't know why.
Testosterone is doping.
You meant dropping?
Doping in sports. Testosterone increases physical strength and stamina.

Effects of lack of testosterone can become apparent with some delay.


Brianna


Yeah you mean the T is decreasing and therefore I'm feeling tired as the
effect, correct?

Don't freak me out with confusion.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 2:34 PM Lena <Lena@...> wrote:

I'm tired a lot and I get tired easily. I don't know why.
Testosterone is doping.
You meant dropping?
Doping in sports. Testosterone increases physical strength and stamina.

Effects of lack of testosterone can become apparent with some delay.







Lena


you mean the T is decreasing and therefore I'm feeling tired as the
effect, correct?
Yes.
Testosterone stimulates muscle growth
and increases quantity of red blood cells (transporting oxygen in blood).


Brianna


Thank you

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 2:41 PM Lena <Lena@...> wrote:

you mean the T is decreasing and therefore I'm feeling tired as the
effect, correct?
Yes.
Testosterone stimulates muscle growth
and increases quantity of red blood cells (transporting oxygen in blood).







Loren Amelang


Spironolactone begins blocking testosterone in minutes, and has a half-life of 1.4 hours. For me it was a great way to check whether feeling "head in a vise" angry was due to too much T, or feeling tired and unmotivated was due to already having too little T. Even a single 25 mg tablet made a sudden dramatic difference, and 100 mg at once would pretty much wipe out all my energy - for an hour or two. And then it was gone... (Apparently some people consider 200 mg per day appropriate, so maybe I'm hypersensitive, but the timing of the effects should be similar for everyone.)

Bica and some other antiandrogens build up over days and persist for weeks, so their effect is not useful for this kind of experiment. But much more comfortable if you decide you need less T.


noface 🇺🇦


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33884-8

Mapping the effects of pregnancy on resting state brain activity, white matter microstructure, neural metabolite concentrations and grey matter architecture

Abstract
While animal studies have demonstrated a unique reproduction-related neuroplasticity, little is known on the effects of pregnancy on the human brain. Here we investigated whether pregnancy is associated with changes to resting state brain activity, white matter microstructure, neural metabolite concentrations and grey matter architecture using a comprehensive pre-conception cohort study. We show that pregnancy leads to selective and robust changes in neural architecture and neural network organization, which are most pronounced in the Default Mode Network. These neural changes correlated with pregnancy hormones, primarily third-trimester estradiol, while no associations were found with other factors such as osmotic effects, stress and sleep. Furthermore, the changes related to measures of maternal-fetal bonding, nesting behavior and the physiological responsiveness to infant cues, and predicted measures of mother-infant bonding and bonding impairments. These findings suggest there are selective pregnancy-related modifications in brain structure and function that may facilitate peripartum maternal processes of key relevance to the mother-infant dyad.

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The weight map associated with the regression model for estradiol—reflecting the relative contribution of the voxels across the brain—indicates that the regions of strongest neural changes also strongly contribute to this regression (Supplementary Fig. 10). In fact, the weight map shows a remarkable similarity to the map of observed brain changes across pregnancy, suggesting that the levels of estradiol a woman is exposed to during gestation may exert effects across the brain and are likely to contribute to the overall pattern of observed neural changes.

Supplementary analyses involving the different sampling points of estradiol measurements across pregnancy were then performed to examine the timing of these effects. These analyses indicated associations with estradiol levels sampled in week 12 as well as a trend for an association with week 24 estradiol levels. Furthermore, associations or trends were observed for estradiol levels extracted from every sampled week of the third trimester (Supplementary Table 51), indicating that especially third-trimester estradiol levels are associated with the observed brain changes.


Trixie


I understand its important for the relationship between child and
mother...but what goes on in a Transgender women mind??? What are the
advantages for us??? I dont wanna much more feel like a pregnant women...Im
feeling enough pregnant with E2 of 590...I wanna be so near it goes to be a
cis women...thats my target. Can this help me? And if you say yes, why?

Am Fr., 2. Dez. 2022 um 19:28 Uhr schrieb noface 🇺🇦 <ns.nanika@...>:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33884-8

Mapping the effects of pregnancy on resting state brain activity, white
matter microstructure, neural metabolite concentrations and grey matter
architecture

Abstract
While animal studies have demonstrated a unique reproduction-related
neuroplasticity, little is known on the effects of pregnancy on the human
brain. Here we investigated whether pregnancy is associated with changes to
resting state brain activity, white matter microstructure, neural
metabolite concentrations and grey matter architecture using a
comprehensive pre-conception cohort study. We show that pregnancy leads to
selective and robust changes in neural architecture and neural network
organization, which are most pronounced in the Default Mode Network. These
neural changes correlated with pregnancy hormones, primarily
third-trimester estradiol, while no associations were found with other
factors such as osmotic effects, stress and sleep. Furthermore, the changes
related to measures of maternal-fetal bonding, nesting behavior and the
physiological responsiveness to infant cues, and predicted measures of
mother-infant bonding and bonding impairments. These findings suggest there
are selective pregnancy-related modifications in brain structure and
function that may facilitate peripartum maternal processes of key relevance
to the mother-infant dyad.

---

The weight map associated with the regression model for
estradiol—reflecting the relative contribution of the voxels across the
brain—indicates that the regions of strongest neural changes also strongly
contribute to this regression (Supplementary Fig. 10). In fact, the weight
map shows a remarkable similarity to the map of observed brain changes
across pregnancy, suggesting that the levels of estradiol a woman is
exposed to during gestation may exert effects across the brain and are
likely to contribute to the overall pattern of observed neural changes.

Supplementary analyses involving the different sampling points of
estradiol measurements across pregnancy were then performed to examine the
timing of these effects. These analyses indicated associations with
estradiol levels sampled in week 12 as well as a trend for an association
with week 24 estradiol levels. Furthermore, associations or trends were
observed for estradiol levels extracted from every sampled week of the
third trimester (Supplementary Table 51), indicating that especially
third-trimester estradiol levels are associated with the observed brain
changes.






Lena


I understand its important for the relationship between child and
mother...but what goes on in a Transgender women mind??? What are the
advantages for us??? I dont wanna much more feel like a pregnant women...Im
feeling enough pregnant with E2 of 590...
neural changes correlated with pregnancy hormones, primarily
third-trimester estradiol
Normal range for third-trimester estradiol is 10,000-40,000 pg/ml =
37000-147000 pmol/l.


Trixie


So what....???? Realy??? Oh Girl...10 mg blast my head to space and I cant
thinking oin one direction...Im so confused if I do it.


Am Do., 15. Dez. 2022 um 19:01 Uhr schrieb Lena <Lena@...>:

I understand its important for the relationship between child and
mother...but what goes on in a Transgender women mind??? What are the
advantages for us??? I dont wanna much more feel like a pregnant
women...Im
feeling enough pregnant with E2 of 590...
neural changes correlated with pregnancy hormones, primarily
third-trimester estradiol
Normal range for third-trimester estradiol is 10,000-40,000 pg/ml =
37000-147000 pmol/l.






noface 🇺🇦


On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 12:57 PM, Trixie wrote:


but what goes on in a Transgender women mind???
There are changes that happen at 3-4mo, which some of us reach by levels. And further changes that most of us won't reach. Pregnancy brain changes do not make women more woman. Plus it's not just just E involved in that. I'm just posting interesting articles on the subject of hormones and brain.